Elgin Heritage Commission Design Review Subcommittee met Nov. 12.
Here is the minutes provided by the subcommittee:
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Rebecca Hunter, Bill Ristow, John Roberson (6:06), Dennis Roxworthy, Scott Savel, and John Wiedmeyer
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
CITY STAFF PRESENT:
Christen Sundquist, Historic Preservation; and Cindy Walden, DRSC Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Motion made by Committee Member Ristow to approve the minutes of October 22, 2019, as amended: 1) page 7 “removed”; and page 8 “Kevin Kearney”.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Savel.
The motion passed 5-0.
RECOGNIZE OTHER PERSONS PRESENT:
None
PROPERTIES ON AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION:
Old Business
None
New Business
56 N Channing St – Maintain K-style gutters
437 North St – Installation of 2 egress windows
ITEMS TABLED:
None
NEW BUSINESS
56 N Channing St – Maintain K-style gutters
The COA application has been filed as a corrective action to the following violations: 1. Installation of k-style gutters without a COA approval.
The applicant received a building permit on October 7, 2019 for a tear-off and re-roof of which was noted on the permit:
“If gutters are proposed to be installed, they shall be half-rounds, colored to match fascia, no more than 6 inches in diameter and the hangers are to be installed under shingles.”
When staff went to inspect the work on October 18, 2019, staff found that k-style gutters were installed without approval.
The applicant is seeking to maintain the k-style gutters that were installed.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications: Gutters and Downspouts
A. Should be repaired rather than replaced, if possible.
B. Should be located away from significant architectural features on the front of the building.
C. Should provide proper drainage through use of downspouts and splash blocks to avoid water damage to the building. Round downspouts are more appropriate than rectangular forms; however, rectangular forms are also acceptable.
D. Should be designed to channel the water as far away from the dwelling as possible. Downspouts should extend at least 4 to 6 feet, or utilize a splash block.
E. Should be half-round rather than k-style or ogee, is of hang-on type. Ogee is permissible if fascia is vertical.
F. Should have straps nailed under, not on top, of roofing material. Metal flashing should also be properly installed so as not to conceal any crown molding in the roof eaves.
G. Should not result in the removal of existing eave features.
H. Should be sized proportionate to the building. Gutters and downspouts should not exceed 6”.
Staff Recommendation
Staff does not recommend approval of the application as submitted, as the proposed design (k- style) does not meet the requirements of the Elgin Design Guideline Manual for Landmarks and Historic Districts.
However, if the Design Review Subcommittee finds it unreasonable for the full removal of the k-style gutters, then staff would recommend the following:
1. Remove k-style gutter at front porch and replace with a half-round gutter – metal (maximum of 6” in diameter);
2. All gutters and downspouts to be painted to match the color trim behind them to blend in.
3. All hangers to be installed under roof shingles.
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Felipe Loe (owner) and his daughter Rosa Martinez (translator) were present for tonight’s COA discussion:
The gutters that were on the house were K-style. Owner replaced also of those gutters and added gutters around the tower too. Water runoff straight down the side of the house from the tower roof was causing driveway deterioration and basement water issues.
Building code will require gutter over an entrance to the porch.
Commissioners noted there is aluminum siding covering the crown molding along the porch line. They further explained that once an incorrect element is removed (K-style gutters), the replacements must conform to the design guidelines. Half round gutters must be installed on the porch and must be strapped to the roof under shingles.
Appropriate 1⁄2 round gutters can be made of copper, aluminum or galvanized material. Downspouts must be round in design. Commission requested staff to complete an onsite visit to review placement of gutters and downspouts.
Motion made by Committee Member Savel to approve with staff recommendations and the following requirements: 1) replace the current placement of porch gutters with 1⁄2 round gutters and 2) staff to determine the number of downspouts, placement of downspouts which must also be round.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roberson. The motion passed unanimously.
437 North St – Installation of 2 egress windows
The applicant has submitted an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install two egress windows, both located on the east elevation of the home.
The proposed location of the egress windows will be hidden behind an existing privacy fence. However, the homeowner will be installing planting/shrubbery to further hide the window wells/egress windows if in the future the fence is removed.
The window wells are proposed to be white washed galvanized steel that is not exposed more than 2 inches above grade with a custom flat lid.
The proposed egress windows will be Jeld-Wen Aluminum-Clad Casement windows with a feaux, simulated divided lite – meeting rail at the center.
Elgin Design Guideline Manual Specifications: Windows
A. Which are original should be preserved in their original location, size, and design and with their original materials and numbers of panes (glass lights).
B. Which are not original should not be added to primary facades or to secondary facades where readily visible.
C. Should be repaired rather than replaced, but if replacement is necessary, the recommended replacement should be in-kind to match the originals in material and design.
Windows clad in aluminum or baked-on aluminum are acceptable as replacement windows for use throughout the structure. Factors to be considered in determining whether the severity of deterioration of windows requires replacement shall include but not be limited to the following factors: damage, excessive weathering, loss of soundness or integrity of the wood, deterioration due to rot or insect attack, and cost to repair. As to the factor of the cost to repair windows, a particular window may be permitted to be replaced rather than repaired if the estimated cost to repair the windows is more than the estimated cost of the purchase and installation of appropriate replacement windows.
D. Which are original of steel or aluminum should be repaired with materials to match the original. If repair is not feasible, replacement should be with new windows to match the original as closely as possible in materials and dimensions. Aluminum extruded windows are an acceptable replacement substitute for original steel sash windows, as long as their size, shape and profile match the original windows.
E. Vinyl extruded windows are not permitted for use in historic districts.
F. Which are new should not have snap-on or flush muntins. True divided muntins are preferred over these types of muntins which do not have the same appearance as historic windows. New muntins which are an integral part of the window sash and installed on both sides of the glass are preferable to snap-on simple grilles.
G. screens and/or storms should be wood or baked-on or anodized aluminum and fit within the window frames.
H. that are approved for replacement may be fitted with new double-paned Low-E glass that will improve the energy conservation on the interior. Only low-e glass that does not contain a tint should be used.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval with the following specifications:
1. The windows are of wood or aluminum clad wood and shall be insert windows.
2. The casement windows shall have a faux meeting rail – simulated divided lite grille that is permanently attached to both the interior and exterior of glass at the center of the window.
3. The brick mold around the masonry opening shall be no less than 2 inches wide.
4. The window well does not extend past the ground more than 2 inches.
5. The window well cover is translucent and installed flat.
6. Year round shrubs are planted around both window wells.
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Carrie Wolf (representative for the owner/project manager for the construction company) was present for tonight’s COA discussion:
There is only one existing basement window on the elevation currently. Two windows are being proposed. To following the line of the existing window opening, the casement window will need to swing in.
Motion made by Committee Member Roxworthy to approve with staff recommendations and the following requirements: 1) Window to swing in, if design detail meet guideline requirements, 2) final window details submitted to staff for final review and approval prior to installation, and 3) PVC flat brick molding to be installed.
The motion was seconded by Committee Member Ristow. The motion passed unanimously.
ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS:
December Plaque Awards – 1) ten plaques to be presented, 2) request for appetizers to be brought by commissioners
CORRESPONDENCE:
None
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Committee Member Savel. The motion was seconded by Committee Member Roxworthy. The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Design Review Subcommittee was adjourned at 6:47 p.m.
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